Indian Debate Calendar

Wednesday, January 18, 2012

Loyola Debate - 2012 Motions and Results

Results of the Jerome D'Souza Memorial Debate - 2012, hosted by Loyola College, Chennai from 14-16 2012

Demo:
THBT Governments have the right to restrict internet access during violent protests

R1: Indian Economic Policy

THS FDI in multibrand retail.
TH will prefer direct cash transfers over subsidized foodgrain in the PDS
THW abolish alcohol excise in all states.

R2: Education

THS the earmarking of 25% seats for economically weaker sections in pvt schools
THBT Universities should not be allowed to claim IPR over the output of research generated through public funds.
THW prevent coaching institutes from naming successful applicants after the declaration of results in competitive exams.

R3: Environment

THBT Multilateral efforts to reduce carbon emissions are futile
THBT restrictions on the use of plastic bags by retailers is counterproductive
THBT the consent of affected communities should be a procondition for proceeding with large infrastructure projects

R4: About the Past

THW deemphasize nationalism in the history curriculum for schools.
THBT DU's decision to drop AK Ramanujam's essay '300 ramayanas' was justifiable.
THS the Truth and Reconciliation Commission model for post conflict societies.

R5: Foreign Affairs

THBT the time is right to invade North Korea
THBT the US should give Guantanamo Bay back to Cuba
THBT banks should not disclose the identity of their customers in response of requests made by foreign governments

QF: Gender

THBT single working women should be exempted from paying personal income tax
TH is skeptical about ladies only compartments in public transport
THBT single sex schools are an anachronism.


SF: Free Speech Fundamentals

THBT there is nothing wrong with the paid news phenomenon
THBT there can be no such thing as hate speech in a liberal democracy
THBT news providers should not face criminal liability for inaccuracies in news reporting.

GF: Tolerance

THW abolish residency requirements for immigrants seeking citizenship
THBT minority run educational institutions should not be given special treatment by the government
THBT WLDs should not restrain the functioning of shariah courts

2nd motion was debated.


Results:

Breaking Teams:

Rank

Team Name

Wins

Spks (not confirmed)

Cumulative MOV






1

Damsel & the Stressed

5

1350

23

2

Def Chall - won

4

1322.5

9.34

3

NLUD - A

4

1317.5

18.33

4

St. Xaviers Calcutta

3

1338.5

7.33

5

Christ B

3

1331.32

-0.5

6

RVCE

3

1318

10

7

Christ A

3

1317

15.16

8

ILS

3

1312

9.34


Semi Finalists: NLUD - A, St. Xaviers Calcutta
Finalists: Def Chall - won
Champions: Damsel & the Stressed

Top Speakers:

1) Nikhil Patel (Damsel & the Stressed) – 392.66
2) Sujoy Dutta (St. Xaviers Calcutta) – 386.66
3) Skanda Prasad (Damsel & the Stressed) – 385.66
4) Ajay Kumar (Christ B) – 384.66
5) Shreya Kalra (Damsel & the Stressed) – 382.98
6) Dhrubo Jyoti (St. Xaviers Calcutta) – 382.33
7) Raunaq Chandrashekhar (NLUD A) – 382
- Aditya (VIT A) - 382
- Gowri (VIT A) - 382
10) Adityavikram Doshi (St. Xaviers Calcutta) – 381.65


Best Adjs:

- Yusuf Roohani (VIT)
- Sharada Srinivasan (MSRIT)

Monday, May 23, 2011

UADC-2011 Motions

Demo Round:
THW grant heads of state the right to an 'Internet Kill' switch.

Round 1:
"The Young and the Old"
M1: THW not allow minors to be involved in politics.
M2: TH would scrap the government pension system
M3: TH house regrets the practice of 'tiger' parenting

Round 2: "Privacy and Intellectual Property"
M1: THBT copyright of visual media belongs to the subject and not the photographer
M2: TH would build a national DNA database
M3: TH would ban the collection and sale of location and usage information by smartphone companies

Round 3: "Sex and Money"
M1: TH would ban adult entertainment from casinos
M2: TH believes that it is wrong to raise money for social welfare through national lotteries
M3: TH would remove all sin taxes

Round 4: "Cross Border (International Relations)"
M1: THBT countries which pollute common waters should lose their Exclusive Economic Zones
M2: TH would not grant citizenship at birth to the children of foreigners on domestic soil
M3: TH would pay the militaries of other states to fight our battles

Round 5: "Mind and Body"
M1: TH believes that doctor should never lie to their patients, even for their own good
M2: TH celebrates the willingness of women to be 'sluts'
M3: TH would allow individuals to purchase behavior-modfiying drugs without prescription

Round 6: "Caught in the Middle" / "The Middle Kingdom"
M1: THBT China should leave the WTO
M2: THBT China should support the unification of the two koreas
M3: THBT China should actively incentivize celebrities and public figures who are non citizen ethnic Chinese to naturalise

Round 7: "The Audience"
M1: TH would make education in the high arts mandatory in schools.
M2: TH would require presidential candidates to disclose their official records upon public request.
M3: TH regrets the high priority given to sports in the national consciousness.

Round 8: "Transition and Democracies"
M1: TH prefers a secular autocracy to a fundamentalist democracy.
M2: TH would erase the legacies and tear down monuments dedicated to deposed dictators.
M3: TH would require election campaigns to be bi-/multi-lingual.


Break Rounds:

Pre-Octo Finals: "The Missionary Position"
M1: THBT states should actively protect the practice of home grown religion
M2: THBT the state should cease to recognize the specific 'right to religious freedom'
M3: TH would not allow religious missions to access the vulnerable

Octo-Finals:
M1: THW target the families of our enemies
M2: THBT its legitimate for states to exaggerate threats to pass unpopular legislation they deem to be in the interest of national security.
M3: THW discontinue all Black Operations.

Quarter Finals:

M1: THW make the raising of business and labour standards a prerequiste for development aid.
M2: THW punish financial institution who fail to maintain liquidity in situation of market fluctuation.
M3: THW discard tourism reliant economy strategies.

Semi Finals: "Venus"
M1: TH welcomes the development of feminist discourse that embraces and expounds on the physical and psychological differences between men and women.
M2: THBT seduction is a legitimate tool in achieving political ends
M3: THW send women as ambassadors to countries that oppress women.

EFL Final:

THBT regional proximity should be prioritized when handing out aid.

Grand Finals:
M1: THW force weapons manufacturers to make financial contributions to states where their products fueled conflicts.
M2: THW never offer amnesty to heads of states in the midst of possible regime change.
M3: TH condemns the failure to intervene in humanitarian and armed crises.


General thoughts:
I really like a few of these motions. Many of them are good ideas, but I'm not sure teams at the prelim level would be able to apply them well enough for the adjs to judge.

For eg, the motion about tiger parenting is an excellent and pertinent issue. The doubt I have with it is about its context sensitivity - a debate on that motion is very very liable to turn into a screwdriver-wrench debate. Ie, the Aff and Neg positions would end up becoming either context sensitive ("sometimes a screwdriver works best, sometimes a wrench works better. We cant say either of these is better all the time, so we need to debate about contexts"). Which basically turns the debate into a meta-debate, or, if the teams dont want to engage, a vanilla-strawberry debate ("I like Vanilla, you like strawberry. We live happily ever after"). An adj on that debate would end up having to enter to make his decision - not a happy situation for anyone in that room.

Similarly, I wonder what the Aff for motions like the Govt. Pension System, Adult Entertainment in Casinos, National Lotteries, and similar motions would be. However,There are motions that I love - SFs was a good set, OFs was fantastic for teams that could argue out well enough, and the Pre-octos were interesting ideas. I'd have loved to watch a top room on the R7 Sports and R8 Autocracy motion. Oh, and the sluts motion was a joy to argue out in my head.

Some remarks on some of the motions:

Demo Round:
THW grant heads of state the right to an 'Internet Kill' switch.
- good, classic motion for a demo debate. Would've liked a motion with a bit more philosophical argumentation, but this is a good one.

Round 1:
"The Young and the Old"
M1: THW not allow minors to be involved in politics. - needs a good clear def. The debate would end up being about 15-18 yr olds, which is a bit narrow.
M2: TH would scrap the government pension system - Aff DIE!!! Unless they set up a restrictive def of forcible donation to pension funds (SG CPF) in developed nations. Even there its tough.
M3: TH house regrets the practice of 'tiger' parenting - discussed above

Round 2: "Privacy and Intellectual Property"
M1: THBT copyright of visual media belongs to the subject and not the photographer
M2: TH would build a national DNA database - Classic motion this one is.
M3: TH would ban the collection and sale of location and usage information by smartphone companies - Whats the opp case for this? Privacy etc already applies. Motion wording gives Aff the prerogative to define it in an unopposable manner.

Round 3: "Sex and Money"
M1: TH would ban adult entertainment from casinos - Why? Casinos are adult only places anyway.
M2: TH believes that it is wrong to raise money for social welfare through national lotteries. - Interesting idea of morality and redistribution. I'd love to see a top room in this motion, but might've been better to save this for a break round.
M3: TH would remove all sin taxes.

Round 4: "Cross Border (International Relations)"
M1: THBT countries which pollute common waters should lose their Exclusive Economic Zones. - Teams that haven't read up DIE :-D
M2: TH would not grant citizenship at birth to the children of foreigners on domestic soil.
M3: TH would pay the militaries of other states to fight our battles.

Round 5: "Mind and Body"
M1: TH believes that doctor should never lie to their patients, even for their own good
M2: TH celebrates the willingness of women to be 'sluts'. - I love it. The motion ie :-D.
M3: TH would allow individuals to purchase behavior-modfiying drugs without prescription - needs a really clean tight def to prevent the debate from meandering.

Round 6: "Caught in the Middle" / "The Middle Kingdom"
M1: THBT China should leave the WTO - Whats the imperative? Could lead to a context debate if not done well
M2: THBT China should support the unification of the two koreas - I LIKE!
M3: THBT China should actively incentivize celebrities and public figures who are non citizen ethnic Chinese to naturalise - Imperative?? None that I could see.Narrow debate I'd think.

Round 7: "The Audience"
M1: TH would make education in the high arts mandatory in schools.
M2: TH would require presidential candidates to disclose their official records upon public request.
M3: TH regrets the high priority given to sports in the national consciousness.
- I like all 3 motions - especially love the last one!

Round 8: "Transition and Democracies"
M1: TH prefers a secular autocracy to a fundamentalist democracy. - would be a good debate with good teams. Teams below that will find it tough. 'Autocracy' could be exploited by opp to tie up Aff in contradiction unless defined well.
M2: TH would erase the legacies and tear down monuments dedicated to deposed dictators.
M3: TH would require election campaigns to be bi-/multi-lingual. - Choice, self-interest to do that, etc? What would Aff say in response?


Break Rounds:

Pre-Octo Finals: "The Missionary Position"
M1: THBT states should actively protect the practice of home grown religion - One of the MDO possibles that was discussed. Hence, I like this motion :-P
M2: THBT the state should cease to recognize the specific 'right to religious freedom' - Love this one. For the principle ie. I wonder how the debates went. This is a tough motion to debate on for sheer level of argumentation.
M3: TH would not allow religious missions to access the vulnerable

Octo-Finals:
M1: THW target the families of our enemies
M2: THBT its legitimate for states to exaggerate threats to pass unpopular legislation they deem to be in the interest of national security.
M3: THW discontinue all Black Operations.
- I like the 1st and the 2nd. The 3rd one is also nice, but i'm unable to put my braincells to it right now.

Quarter Finals:

M1: THW make the raising of business and labour standards a prerequiste for development aid.
M2: THW punish financial institution who fail to maintain liquidity in situation of market fluctuation.
M3: THW discard tourism reliant economy strategies.

Semi Finals: "Venus"
M1: TH welcomes the development of feminist discourse that embraces and expounds on the physical and psychological differences between men and women.
M2: THBT seduction is a legitimate tool in achieving political ends
M3: THW send women as ambassadors to countries that oppress women.
- Interesting motions. the 3rd motion is similar to the finals of last year's Aberystwyth IV ("THW send flamboyant gay ambassadors to countries that oppress gays"), albeit more straightforward. I wonder what Aff would argue on the 2nd motion. But it is quite intriguing as an idea.

Grand Finals:
M1: THW force weapons manufacturers to make financial contributions to states where their products fueled conflicts. - Direct responsibility, sale, etc etc. Not a big fan esp if I were Aff. SQ does have penalties for sales in case of warzones or sales to militant groups, etc. Plus, in most cases, such sales are always done through governments or arms dealers through backchannels. Weapons manufacturers aren't always in the loop.
M2: THW never offer amnesty to heads of states in the midst of possible regime change. - Good one. I'd fancy my chances on this motion as Opp. A good debate about the idea of justice and peace and which of those has primacy.
M3: TH condemns the failure to intervene in humanitarian and armed crises. - Somewhat odd. Its a very small step. Prop centric i'd think.

Saturday, May 21, 2011

UADC-2011 Break round matchups


And its out:

NUS-1 (Robin Teo, Imran Rahim and Sadhana Rai) beat UPD-1 (Carlo Borromeo, Alistair Zosa and Pearl Simbulan) in the Grand Finals of the UADC-2011 with a 6-3 split.

The motion was "THW Never offer amnesty to heads of state in the midst of possible regime change". (Interesting motion, although i'd fancy my chances as opp on this one).

The Grand Finals jury was Nishita Vasan (chair), Azrul Izzam, Shuvam Datta, Loke Wing Fatt, Zheng Bo, Suthen 'Tate' Thomas, Gica Mangahas, Satya Venugopal, Jess Lopez. Dissenting Adjs were Gica, Satya and Jess.

(Note: The UADC Macau twitter has Ahyoung as panel for grand finals, but the photograph has Zheng Bo on it. I'm assuming the photo doesn't lie)

Interesting note:
This was the first time since 2001 that Ateneo are not in the Grand Finals of the Asians, either the AUDC or All-Asians. This will also be the first Asians finals in 4 years that is not an Ateneo-NTU finals (the last one was in 2007, which was an Ateneo-NUS final). I wonder when was the last time Ateneo DIDNT make the semis of the Asians. That is truly incredible dominance, and well deserved too.

The end of an era indeed... of course, we will need 2012 to see if this is really a change in the air. I bet we'll have ADMU teams back with a bang next year!!

More Analysis once the full tab is out.

UADC-2011 post Break analysis

As the UADC breaks have come out, here they are: (courtesy Faiz)

1) 8-0 - NUS-1
2) 7-1 - DLSU-1
3) 7-1 - SMU-1
4) 6-2 - ADMU-1
5) 6-2 - NUS-2
6) 6-2 - UPD-2
7) 6-2 - UPD-1
8) 6-2 - KU-2
9) 6-2 - UTMARA-1
10) 6-2 - ADMU-2
11) 6-2 - IIUM-1
12) 6-2 - CFS-1
13) 6-2 - UTMARA-3
14) 6-2 - NTU-1
15) 6-2 - RVCE-1
16) 5-3 - UPM-1
17) 5-3 - ADMU-3
18) 5-3 - DLSU-2
19) 5-3 - UCTI-1
20) 5-3 - NTU-3
21) 5-3 - UTMARA-2
22) 5-3 - FOLC-1
23) 5-3 - UPD-3
24) 5-3 - UM-1

Analysis:

Win-Loss Record:
8-0 - 1 team
7-1 - 2 teams
6-2 - 12 teams
5-3 - 9 teams

which compares with the expected result (from the previous post) of:

8-0 - 0 - 1 team
7-1 - 3-4 teams
6-2 - 11-12 teams
5-3 - 8-10 teams

I am trying to figure out the discrepency with the 7-1 bracket, but given the size of those brackets and also considering how the brackets become odd numbered as early as R2, I think a +/- 1 difference should be acceptable.

Institutions:
ADMU - 3
UPD - 3
UTMARA - 3
NTU - 2
DLSU - 2
NUS - 2
SMU - 1
KU - 1
IIUM - 1
CFS - 1
RVCE - 1
UPM - 1
UCTI - 1
FOLC - 1
UM - 1

Institution Diversity this time is slightly lower than last year - 15 institutions this year vs 16 institutions last year.

The biggest changes are UTMARA and University of the Philippines Diliman (UPD), which broke 3 teams this year vs only 1 last year. Institutions which broke more than 1 team last year continue to break more than 1 team this year as well, with UPD joining the previous 5 institutions that broke more than 1 team. NUS broke 4 teams last year (1 got capped out), broke only 2 this year.

New institutions that did not break teams last year are CFS, UCTI, UM, SMU and KU. 3 of these Institutions are Malaysian. Institutions which dropped out of the breaking list from last year are NLS India, Mahidol Uni, UST (philippines), Delhi Uni., IIT Bombay and EDiS. As evident, 3 of the 6 institutions that didnt continue their break this year are from India. The overall trend is that of a resurgence in Malaysian teams at the cost of Indian teams.

Among the new breaking institutions, SMU had the best performance, going from non-break last year to rank #3 this year. However, they have lost to NTU-1 in the octos, while their rank would've seeded them for a semi-finals against DLSU-1 (rank 2).

Country-wise:

Philippines - 9
Malaysia - 7
Singapore - 5
Korea - 1
India - 1
Sri Lanka - 1

Compared with Last year:


The most obvious change is the resurgence of Malaysia and the recession of India. The others are in almost the exact same position as last year (except for Thailand which didn't break a team this year).

Thursday, May 19, 2011

UADC-2011 potential-break analysis

I had created a MATLAB script to generate tab details for a tournament for each round, given the format, number of rounds and number of teams. The script is quite accurate, based on what i've tested it against other tournaments. The assumption of course is that teams would generally go up against teams from the same W/L bracket.

Applying that to the UADC this year, with the following data:

Format: Asians 3-on-3
Rounds: 8
Teams: 102
Breaks: 24 (pre-octos)

The output is as shown below (open in a separate window to view it clearly):


As seen, the final break ends at 5 wins. There are approximately 14 teams with guaranteed breaks on a 6-2 or higher W/L margin. That means that the top 10 out of 22 5-3 teams will break to the pre-octos.

However, be be sure of getting a bye to the octo-finals, a time should aim at an 8-0 or 7-1 record, although the top 4 or 5 6-2 teams will get a bye, but that would depend on speaker scores.

Looking at the bubble, since 4 losses would eliminate a team, the bubble would start forming after Round 3 itself, with teams in the 0-3 bracket (12 teams) and Round 4 with teams in the 1-3 bracket (25 teams in that bracket itself, and about 70 teams above them).

Typically, R5 would be most crucial for teams aiming to break, with teams in the 1-3 bracket (25 teams) and 2-2 bracket (38 teams) needing to do well in this round. More so with a sliding bracket power-matching. A loss in that round would eliminate about 12 teams from the breaks, and create another big bubble of 31 teams in the 2-3 bubble for R6.

For the 2-2 teams that win and thus end up on 3-2, it gives them a bit of buffer, but then, R6 would be crucial based on which team they go up againt, since they would be facing the teams from the 3-1 bracket that lost. A win in R5 would also allow teams to carry the momentum into R6 and R7, as well as guarantee a reasonable quality of adjudication in those rounds. Typically, adj cores would start looking to create high panels in these rounds for the centre bubble rooms. R8 is a totally different matter - its the endgame, and generally defies all calculations (although by this time, the bubble is 43 teams) .

Looking at the results, after 8 prelims rounds:

8-0 - 0.3984 teams
7-1 - 3.1875 teams
6-2 - 11.1563 teams
(certain breaks above this)

5-3 - 22.3125 teams (top 10 teams will break)
4-4 - 27.8906 teams
3-5 - 22.3125 teams


(below this line isnt an enviable tab position to end up on)
2-6 - 11.1563 teams
1-7 - 3.1875 teams
0-7 - 0.3984 teams (heres hoping there isnt a 0 wins team at this UADC)

Friday, January 21, 2011

MAD Training - Adjudication Concepts

Webinar for the Week... Monash Association of Debaters Training Webinar on Adjudication Concepts. The strong part of this webinar are the questions and answers.

Source: http://www.slideshare.net/MADTraining/advanced-tactics

If the sound isn't playing on this page, go to the page linked above

Wednesday, December 8, 2010

Indian debate Calendar



https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=qm6to0mtjdgi36d7515118u38c@group.calendar.google.com

Indian Tournaments - Dec-March

1) NLS MUN -
17 - 19 Dec,
NLS, Bangalore

http://nlsmun.in

2) HR MUN '11 -
13 - 15th Jan,
Mumbai
http://www.hrmun.org/

3) SIMUNC '11 - (Symby MUN),
17 - 19th Jan
Pune
http://www.simunc.org/

4) Army Institute of Law (AIL) PD -
21- 23rd January 2011
Mohali
http://www.aildebate.com/

5) LSR-MUN -
21 - 24th Jan,
Delhi

7) NUJS PD -
3 - 8th Feb,
Kolkata

8) BITS Goa MUN -
3 - 5th Feb
2011
BITS Goa
http://bitsmun.in/BITSMUN/home.html

9) LSEAD (Lahore School of Economics PD)
4th-8th Feb
Lahore

10) BITS PILANI MUN -
11 -14th Feb 2011

BITS Pilani
http://bitsmun.org/

11) Malaysia Debate Open
4 - 7th March 2011
MMU Melaka, Malaysia
www.malaysiadebateopen.com
(Registrations Open. 100 team cap. Its an Open) - book ur tickets now, and you'll get them from Air Asia from Chennai at 8,200 Rs!!

12) UADC-2011
16 - 23 May, 2011
University of Macau, Macau
http://uadc2011.gaes.gov.mo/


P.S.... There is a google Calendar for this stuff... check it out at
https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=qm6to0mtjdgi36d7515118u38c@group.calendar.google.com

Friday, May 15, 2009

Aye and Yea!!

Yello people...

As the above line has probably already told you, I'm not that big on Queen's English, whatever the title of this blog may say about that. Yes, I do believe that Queen's English is definitely a far better idea than what the Yanks call E-N-G-L-I-S-H, and I still spell colour as C-O-L-O-U-R.

But then again, all languages do adapt and change, and I guess it is always better to go with the flow. 200 years ago, some poor grammarian would probably have been tearing his hair over mistakes that are correct language today. If we had listened to them, we'd still be stuck with "thou art correct", rather than the infinitely more convenient "a-OK".

Think of the letters that we've stopped writing. When I was in school, the idea of a pen friend was still alive, albeit tenuously. Today, we don't even have email friends - they've all been replaced by Facebook contacts, who tweet sweet nothings on our "Wall". Postage Stamps lie forgotten.

Then, there is the salutation in the letters (even the rare ones that we have to write). I remember my school English teacher telling us the perfect old British trained style of "Thanking you, I shall remain, yours faithfully/truly". That got shortened to "Yours faithfully", which has now given way to the more robotic "Warm Regards". Combined with the electronic world that guarantees no human contact between the alphabets and the writer, and the dehumanization of our literary world is complete.

But I digress. After all, isn't the aim of a first post an introduction to the writer and the blog itself. Assuming that it indeed is so, Let me start by fulfilling my burdens:

I am a just-out-of-teens college student studying Engineering in Bangalore. Reading and Debating (PD to be precise, Asians style PD to be annoyingly so) being my passions (would that be too heavily loaded a word, I wonder?), that will probably be a major part of most posts here. Before you get carried away, let me assure you that I'm not an expert at either, nor am I someone whose opinions you should consider heavily. I guess, being an amateur, this will be a compilation of the aches, falls and bruises that we'll be learning from, along with some ideas from practicing with other novices.

Happy reading. Please do respond. This isnt a monologue!